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The Forever War PDF/EPUB ð The Forever MOBI :å

The Forever War [PDF / Epub] ★ The Forever War Author Joe Haldeman – Signez et re signez là pour 1 141 ans Le soldat William Mandella après un entraînement plutôt extrême part au front très loin défier un ennemi les Taurans dont on ne connaît uasiment rien Mais Signez et re signez là pour ans Le soldat William Mandella après un entraînement plutôt extrême part au front très loin défier un ennemi les Taurans dont on ne connaît uasiment rien Mais aller faire la guerre à l’autre bout de la galaxie c'est se confronter au temps Pour celui ui voyage à une vitesse proche de celle de la lumière le temps passe lentement très lentement alors u’il défile pour le reste de l'humanité Et tandis u’il nous raconte vie militaire et combats sur un ton d’ironie et de causticité The Forever MOBI :å l’humanité change À chacun de ses retours sur la planète mère William Mandella en découvre les modifications et perd peu à peu tous ses repères Alors autant continuer le combat Jusu’au jour de la démobilisation ui sera plein de surprises Space opera militaire La Guerre éternelle est un passionnant roman aux forts accents pacifistes.

10 thoughts on “The Forever War

  1. Kemper Kemper says:

    This book is a military style space opera with Wait Where are you going? Get back here I hadn’t got to the good part yet Give me a second to explain GeezOK so yes there is an interstellar war with human troops in high tech ard suits battling an alien enemy on distant planets I know it sounds like another version of Starship Troopers or countless other bad genre sci fi tales that copied it but this one is different Hell when it was published in 1975 it won the Hugo the Locus and the Nebula awards for best novel so you know it’s gotta be pretty decentWilliam Mandella has been drafted as one of the first troops that will be sent to fight the Taurans There are points in space called collapsers that are like wormholes that will transport your ship to a distant area in the universe instantly and humanity is fighting the Taurans to use them Both races like to build bases on nearby planets to establish control of the area around the collapsers Unfortunately most of the planets out there aren’t anything like what we’re used to seeing in Star Wars They’re usually cold lifeless rocks and just training to use their suits in these environments is dangerous let alone trying to fight an alien race they know little about Mandella gets through training and manages to survive the first battle with the Taurans That’s where the book gets really interestingWhile the collapsers provide instant space travel the ships still have to get to the nearest one and that means months of travel at near light speed It turns out that Einstein was right about relativity and traveling at near the speed of light makes time do some funky things So while the troops on the ship feel like a journey only took months years have passed for everyone else When Mandella returns to Earth after his first battle he’s only aged two years but ten years have passed on EarthSince Mandella has to do and light speed journeys centuries pass on Earth even though it’s only been a few years for him Mandella will return from missions to find that humanity has changed so much that he has almost nothing in common with the rest of the people and since he manages to survive several campaigns when almost everyone else dies he’s uickly becoming one of the oldest men in the universe during his ten year subjective enlistmentAnother uirk of the time differences is that when the humans meet the Taurans they can’t know if they’re battling alien troops who are centuries ahead or behind them in terms of military intelligence and weapons technology So Mandella and his fellow soldiers may have a huge advantage or be severely outgunned It just depends on if the Taurans they’re fighting started their light speed journeys before or after they didAs the war drags on for century after century it is both sustaining and draining Earth’s economy Mandella finds himself losing all his family his friends and his lovers to war or age He is increasingly out of touch with Earth and the rest of humanity The army continues to promote him mainly because his seniority has reached ridiculous levels after centuries of serviceOne of the things that isolates Mandella is that homosexuality becomes the norm due to Earth overpopulation In an ironic reversal of don’t ask don’t tell Mandella is the outcast that disgusts many of his fellow soldiers due to his unenlightened ways Even the slang spoken by other soldiers becomes incomprehensible to him Increasingly lonely and out of sync with everyone around him with almost no chance of surviving his enlistment Mandella nurses the hope that the war will someday end during the large gaps of time he skips as he travels to his assignmentsJoe Haldeman is a Vietnam vet and this is an obvious allegory for that war with a weary soldier stuck in a seemingly endless conflict and realizing that even if he makes it home he won’t fit in to the world he left While Haldeman’s science and military background gives the book its detail and depth it’s the tragedy of Mandella’s predicament that makes it a sci fi classic

  2. Lyn Lyn says:

    First published in 1974 and winner of the 1975 Hugo and Locus awards Forever War by Joe Haldeman kicks assMore than just a book about a futuristic war Haldeman describes a society built around the codependency of the industrial military complex and with a fluid dynamic socio economic culture that is fascinating to watch unfoldAnd the welfare recipients get a bag of dope with their checkHaldeman’s protagonist William Mandella is in an elite military group that travels light distances to battles Transportation being what it is less than light speed it takes decades even hundreds of years for the troops to reach the fight and meanwhile society changes around him When he reaches the end of his career thousands of years have passed and he does not even speak the same language as his fellow citizens and the war he signed up for is ancient historyHaldeman himself a Vietnam War veteran brings an empathetic perspective to his futuristic warrior portrayalThought provoking and original this is a MUST for science fiction fans 2016 RereadReading this again I think for the third time reaffirmed my love for this book Reading after a couple of decades the first time in HS and then again only a couple years later in college I see of Haldeman's subtle humorI can also see from a 2016 perspective how this could be seen as homophobic An extremist shock value idea in the 70s could be seen as insensitive now but I get what he was doing and in context he was making a statement about nonconformism and parallel changes with his experience coming back from VietnamHis hard SF ideas like relative time and the stasis field are great but his statements about cultural and sociological changes are what makes this a great bookOne of my all time favorites and Again a MUST read for fans of the genre and a damn fine work of 70s antiestablishment literature I need to read from him 2018 addendum This is such a great book and he's such an amazing writer Some friends and I were talking about some of his other books but I'm always drawn back to this one I recall the later passages were he doesn't even speak the same language as his unit the time has separated them so much but this may also be a metaphor for senior leadership being out of touch Like many great books this works on multiple levels I'll reread this again it's that good

  3. Emily (Books with Emily Fox) Emily (Books with Emily Fox) says:

    Maybe a generous 25? Just for the overall conceptLet's start with the positive I enjoyed following a main character struggling to adapt to the changes on Earth while he's at war 2 years for him end up being 26 on Earth due to time relativity It only gets worst as the war progresses The rest was a mess for me This book is often mentioned as a classic sci fi and is on so many best sci fi of all time lists To me a classic has to survive the test of time and this book did not age well Like at allI understand that some parts of the book are there to show us that the main character is old fashioned compare to others but oh my was this a frustrating read then unleashed Stargate's eighteen sex starved men on our women compliant and promiscuous by military custom and law but desiring nothing so much as sleepI What? I'd gotten used to open female homosex in the months since we'd left Earth Even stopped resenting the loss of potential partners The men together still gave me a chill thoughOf courseThese are just two uotes out of a dozen other ones I could include The writing style wasn't for me and I didn't care about the characters at all In its defence I'm not big on military fiction so the battles bored me but I expected that I just can never get over how little I care about people dying left and right I'm not sure if the ending was supposed to be a twist or a deep moral of the story but it was kinda obvious and pretty much already how things seem to be nowadaysOverall a big miss for me

  4. J.L. Sutton J.L. Sutton says:

    While it reminded me of Heinlein's Starship Troopers and Avatar especially the beginning where recruits are told about all the things that could kill them and how they likely wouldn't make it back alive Haldeman's Forever War takes a different turn Haldeman's book focuses on a soldier fighting an interstellar war Because our character is traveling to his battles at near light speed when he returns to earth between missions decades pass Haldeman speculates about the social changes taking place changes that our character has difficulty adapting to or fully accepting Despite social changes there is one constant; the war continues Haldeman's book still resonates

  5. Manny Manny says:

    In case any movie producers are listening in ten reasons to film The Forever War1 Gratuitous sex and nudity2 Social relevance it's about Vietnam stoopid3 Evil aliens4 General relativity5 Wormholes Interstellar Joe Haldeman was here first6 Freaky high tech zone where you can only fight with swords7 Unexpected twist view spoilerThe evil aliens actually turn out to be good aliens hide spoiler

  6. Emily May Emily May says:

    Yeaahhhh I'm ready for some hard science fictionLook I got my glasses on all serious like

  7. Piotr Reysner Piotr Reysner says:

    I bought and read this book based upon the many glowing reviews I saw on the internet It's heralded as a classic and one of the best Sci Fi books of all time I have to disagreeI liked the concept Scientifically it was intriguing However the story was repetitive and slow The exact same thing kept happening over and over again Set up base Boring Battle many people die Get back on ship Stay in space for a long time Get bored Return to base Go back out RepeatThere were long long stretches where just nothing happened Also the character development was just non existent The enemy was only described in appearance but never described for what they were In fact even the battles with the aliens were dull and lifelessThe protagonist is barely developed He is just a hapless soldier who just wants to get laid on a regular basis And for half the book he has his pick of any woman he wants and apparently has sex almost every night And other than having some difficult command decisions to make we learn virtually nothing about his character I was sorely disappointed by this book and just can't recommend it to anyone

  8. Adrian Adrian says:

    Review to followThis was a book which I had been wanting to read for a long time and then as part of March's Bossy Book Challenge Time Travel for one of the SF groups I belong to Apocalypse Whenever the person I was paired with gave me this novel as one of my choices and so I jumped at itWas it a good SF novel well yes for certain would I class it as Time Travel erm no Yes it had time passing ultra uickly whilst the hero and heroines were travelling just sub light Time Dilation Theory Such that for some of the hero's only 5 years passed during their battles with the enemies The Taurans however as they had travelled countless light years at just sub light speed centuries had passed on EarthTo me this was a military SF novel with the human touch say Starship Troopers with happy bits or David Webber's Honor Harrington Enjoyable and well written with some great characters not truly awesome but good nonetheless Some people liken it given when it was written to an allegorical view of the Vietnam war I can't see that for a number of reasons but mostly because view spoiler it ends happily hide spoiler

  9. Scurra Scurra says:

    Catch 22 is often cited as one of the great books about the futility and inherent paradoxes of war I think this is easily its eual but is often overlooked because it is dismissed as just science fictionBy using the tropes of SF Haldeman vividly illustrates not only the psychological effects on the combatants but also the desperate disassociation wrought between the soldiers and the rest of society his reference point was the Vietnam veterans but it could apply anywhere and anywhen There are some moments of genuine horror too especially when you start to understand what the narrator is telling you A serious contender for my top ten books of all time

  10. Leonard Gaya Leonard Gaya says:

    Joe Haldeman a Vietnam veteran wrote The Forever War in the seventies and his novel soon became a classic of the so called “military science fiction” genre in keeping with and way better than Heinlein’s Starship Troopers The book tells the story of an intergalactic war with an alien race that spans well over a millennium as seen from Private Mandella It starts with drill instruction and training on a freezing satellite of Pluto expanding further on until the conflict reaches the Great Magellanic Cloud away from our galaxyAs expected from a novel such as this one there are some very thrilling and sometimes disheartening combat scenes The minutiae of military life its protocol language and techniues are vividly and often than not ironically described And in the midst of all this there is a forever love story with Private Marygay — it is touching to think that this female character bears the name of Haldeman’s wifeBut a few things struck me in particularFirst there is a very clever and knowledgeable use of physics especially the theory of relativity the war takes place in such a large setting that travelling from one place to the next at nearly the speed of light produces stunning time distortions In so doing the main character lives and witnesses the evolution of mankind through the centuries This device has later been reused in science fiction for instance in Nolan’s 2014 movie InterstellarSecond is that in this vast period of time human economics language way of life and particularly gender politics and sexuality evolves in unpredictable waysLast and certainly not least when around the middle of the book Mandella comes back to Earth and civilian life after his first campaign away from the Solar System life on Earth feels alien to him than the distant starfields I suspect that this feeling of subjective time distortion is shared by many war veterans when after a time in Vietnam in the Middle East or any other “forever war” they finally come back homeThe novel ends with these ironic words “The 1143 years long war had begun on false pretenses and only continued because the two races were unable to communicate” It is not at all improbable that this could be said of uite a few wars in history

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